Oh S**t!

Poo

This is something that (if you are regular) we do every day, but it is one of those things people don't like to think about.  However, in order to make proactive choices about our planet in our daily lives we need to think about it- because when it isn't it can become a combined problem as big as global warming itself.

Did anyone know scientists are researching this to combat global warming (amont other things)?:

Human Manure Eyed as Energy Source in Vancouver, Canada

2005  Pilot Plant On Stream To Turn Manure Into Usable Energy

The Alberta Research Council (ARC) and Highmark Renewables have marked the official opening of a new pilot plant at Highland Feeders, one of Canada's largest feedlot operations. The plant demonstrates new technology developed jointly by ARC and Highmark Renewables to transform manure into energy, bio-based fertilizers and reusable water, while reducing greenhouse gas emissions and other environmental impacts associated with land application of manure.

Has anyone heard anything recent on this about the performance of this plant???
Hm... wonder about the smell and where we would put these...
I also get the impression that most people would be more vocal about the smell of this than say, the dangers of putting up a nuclear power plant somewhere - despite that one energy solution is solving a problem and the other is arguably creating one...

How it works


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Rittman has a grant of $100000 from NASA to design a compact microbial fuel cell that consumes human waste during a manned astronaut mission.

Microbial fuel cell: High yield hydrogen source and wastewater cleaner

University Park, Pa. -- Using a new electrically-assisted microbial fuel cell (MFC) that does not require oxygen, Penn State environmental engineers and a scientist at Ion Power Inc. have developed the first process that enables bacteria to coax four times as much hydrogen directly out of biomass than can be generated typically by fermentation alone.

Bruce Logan, the Kappe professor of environmental engineering and an inventor of the MFC, says, "This MFC process is not limited to using only carbohydrate-based biomass for hydrogen production like conventional fermentation processes. We can theoretically use our MFC to obtain high yields of hydrogen from any biodegradable, dissolved, organic matter -- human, agricultural or industrial wastewater, for example -- and simultaneously clean the wastewater.

Chinese team uses raw sewage to heat or cool buildings

Chinese researchers say they have invented a cheap and eco-friendly way to keep city-dwellers warm in winter and cool in summer - using untreated sewage. Their device extracts heat from raw sewage that has been temporarily diverted on its way to the processing plant. It can also make air conditioning units run more efficiently, and absorb the heat they remove from buildings. The device can reduce the cost of heating and air conditioning systems by 20 per cent. Sun's invention works in conjunction with the standard 'heat pump' system used in air conditioning units. By creating a series of filters to retain the solid waste, which would otherwise block the pipes, the device leaves the liquid component free to enter the pump and transfer its heat to a coil filled with Freon - the trade name for a gas used as a refrigerant. The liquid sewage then returns to the device to carry the solid waste away to the processing plant. The Freon, meanwhile, is compressed to further warm it, and diverted to a condenser, which heats a water-filled coil. A fan blows the heated air around the coil into the room.

Oh Poo!

All those jokes about beans and fueling your car, might actually come close to the science of the day:

Bio-Bug: Car run on human waste

FDA Warning

Heh, not really on the same subject, but the forum post was appropriate :-)

The FDA issued a warning on bowel-cleansing drugs because of reports of kidney damage in several patients.  These things are routinely given to people who are scheduled to have colonoscopies.  In fact, I'm supposed to schedule a colonoscopy myself (sorry if that's TMI :-)--and reading this I'm wonderin what kind of alternative there is to taking this junk or whether to just skip the whole thing (it's just a routine one because of my age).

The FDA says there have been over 20 reported cases of kidney failure after taking the drugs.

FDA Warning

Odds

As long as "over 20" doesn't mean several million, it sounds like the odds against this being a real problem are pretty good. Given that they can virtually eliminate any possibility of colon cancer by popping polyps during a colonoscopy, it sounds to me like skipping the procedure to avoid the kidney failure is tantamount to not wearing your seat belt because it just might be safer to be thrown clear of the car in the event of an accident. I think I'd talk over all the options with my doctor before becoming worried.

Odds

Yea, you're right ESi.  I think I'm reacting to the fact that the FDA actually came out with a warning on something!  Oh my gosh, I'm thinkin'...this must be some serious, um, well, you know...

But seriously, they've been letting so much stuff through in order to please the pharmaceutical companies, the headline that they issued a "black box" warning on this product got my attention.

kidney damage

I think this warning might equate to the "do not place plastic bag over head" type of thing.  It seems that patients who didn't follow the directions on the package are the ones that had issues... either that or they already had preexisting kidney problems that their doctor should have known about.

If you take this drug, I'd make sure to carefully follow package instructions and drink as much water as they tell you to.   The dosage and directions for use are the seat belt in this scenario. 

FDmAfia

Maybe somebody forgot to pay their protection money to the FDA and got black-labeled for it. Hopefully your doctor isn't a pharmasellout and knows enough about all of this to give you good advice on how best to proceed.

FDmAfia

Laughing

HAH!

New Toilet Designs

This article talks about how new toilet designs could help utilize human waste and cut down on the immense amount of water currently wasted: "Waste? Not."

Daaaaang...

So now all we need are contractors who will install all this stuff...

waste not

Hey DL, thanks for all the great information! When you think about it, this is a way we have really disrupted the whole eco-cycle, creating so much more waste than the natural biological processes can handle. And it sure makes more sense than creating more waste (as in nuclear power).

I was recently reading about a project at MIT where they are trying to utilize the energy created by people walking in high traffic areas like subway entrances into electricity. I often think gyms should have all their stationary bikes and treadmills hooked up to generators in some way.

Wow

What a cool idea!  Cool

walking=electricity

http://www.boston.com/news/science/articles/2007/07/30/these_boots_were_made_for_walking____and_generating_energy_too/

Greywater Systems

Greywater is washwater. That is, all wastewater excepting toilet wastes and food wastes derived from garbage grinders. There are significant distinctions between greywater and toilet wastewater (called "blackwater"). These distinctions tell us how these wastewaters should be treated /managed and why, in the interests of public health and environmental protection, they should not be mixed together.

Slightly less disturbing to think about

When properly managed, greywater can be a valuable resource which horticultural and agricultural growers as well as home gardeners can benefit from. It can also be valuable to landscape planners, builders, developers and contractors because of the design and landscaping advantages of on-site greywater treatment/management. It is, after all, the same phosphorous, potassium and nitrogen making greywater a source of pollution for lakes, rivers and ground water which are excellent nutrient sources for vegetation when this particular form of wastewater is made available for irrigation.

 Greywater irrigation has long been practiced in areas where water is in short supply. However, proper precautions for its use have not always been observed. This has posed a problem for health officials, who contend that there is no good management method for greywater which both balances user needs with public safety considerations. In fact, options for making safe use of greywater as a source for irrigation are many and diverse. The engineering of these systems is still a relatively young technology; but it is one making rapid progress. It also makes sense from both the environmental and "waste" management points of view.

These systems can be retrofitted to an existing home - and would make an impact on the water shortages caused by global warming and drought.

Rainwater Harvesting/Catchment Systems

A close cousin...

High density developments have a big impact on municipal water sources and aquifers. Clean water is becoming a precious commodity in some regions. Here's a simple technology that you should know about that can make a big difference. Rainwater harvesting techniques can provide a free, higher-quality source once the initial investment in collection and storage systems is recouped.

The parts of a complete system include the catchment area (a roof), a rainwater conveyance system (gutters and leaders), holding vessels (cisterns), a roof-wash system (usually the first 10 -20 gallons of rain are diverted from the cistern), a delivery system (pumps) and a treatment system (filters and/or purifiers). Systems can be custom designed and built or purchased as a package. The components may be added by retrofitting existing gutter/leader and roof systems. Uncoated stainless steel or galvanized steel with a baked-enamel finish that is certified as lead-free are considered the best choices for rainwater catchment.

Rainbarrels, Cisterns etc

Great resource links here for this sort of thing.

Composting Toilets

After reading about these, I've seriously considered using composting toilets were I ever to construct a new home.

The monkey solution...

If you have any poo, fling it now...   Laughing