FAQ

Where’s your claim to be descended from Jesus come from in the first place?

Well, that’s a funny story, really.

For some time now I’ve been interested in studying my family’s genealogy. In the course of my studies I came to learn that I am ultimately descended from European royalty. Among those ancestors are the legendary Merovingians of France. I should note here that I’m fully aware that the art of accurate genealogy can be a mite tricky. Nevertheless, I’m convinced that this much of my family tree is, as it were, solid as the proverbial rock.

From there I do confess that it becomes quite a bit more speculative. But there are many legends and contemporary theories (most recently made popular by Dan Brown’s The DaVinci Code) that insist that the origin of the Merovingian birthright was a union between Jesus of Nazareth and Mary Magdalene.

If those legends and theories are true, then Jesus Christ is, in fact, my grandpappy.

But aren’t there thousands, even MILLIONS of people who could claim a lineage from European royalty?

Yes, I reckon so. In fact, statistically speaking, given normal human procreation patterns over the course of 2000 years, it's likely that most human beings on the planet can trace a genetic line right to Grandpappy.

So what makes you so special, then?

I don’t rightly know. YOU’RE the one visiting MY website. But if you think you, too, might be a grandchild of Christ, feel free to let me know by clicking the "Contact the GC" link to your left, or leaving a "comment" below, or posting a message to the "Cousins' Forum". And if you're interested in showing your "Holy Grail" family pride, visit the Emporium!

Where have you posted your family tree so that we can verify your claim that you are descended from Christ?

Nowhere. Out of respect for the privacy of my living relatives and to avoid having my home turned into a shrine, I will not make my family tree available to the public. Not that you have to take my word for it, of course. But I hope that doesn’t prevent you from enjoying yourself as you peruse the site. Like Grandpappy, I like to entertain my company.

All of that said, I reckon it's safe to reveal this tidbit:  my parents are 37th cousins twice removed, with the common ancestor being Holy Roman Emperor Charlemagne.  Of course, Charlemagne descended from the Merovingian kings who, legend has it, descended from Grandpappy.

If Jesus visited Earth today, do you think he would be so narcissistic as to publish a blog?

I imagine Grandpappy would probably use whatever means were available to get His message out, including the World Wide Web. Certainly when He was on Earth there were many who thought Him just a big showoff, gathering multitudes in the morning and prattling right on through lunchtime. In fact, one story about Grandpappy you might be familiar with involves Him casting out some demons right in front of a big crowd of people. Well, there was this group of sourpusses there who said amongst themselves, "This fellow does not cast out demons except by Beelzebub, the ruler of the demons!" You know, as if Grandpappy wasn’t going to hear them or something. So then Grandpappy says, and this always cracks me up, he says, "Every kingdom divided against itself is brought to desolation, and every city or house divided against itself will not stand. If Satan casts out Satan, he is divided against himself. How then will his kingdom stand?" I tell you what, Grandpappy always had snappy comebacks for those guys. Anyhow, the point is, it isn’t how much attention you draw to yourself that matters. What matters is WHY you’re making a fuss. Grandpappy was constantly drawing attention to Himself, but hardly anyone today thinks Him anything but a humble guy. That’s because they know He didn’t attract all that attention for His own benefit. He did it for the benefit of Humanity. So before you get the idea that I created this site for self-aggrandizement, read a little bit of it first so you can get a better idea of what my motives are. If after you’ve read it you still think I’m a megalomaniac… well, then you can go suck eggs. (Just kidding… sorry… it’s something my Pappy sometimes says in jest and it makes me laugh, so I just couldn’t resist.)

Don’t you think it’s blasphemous to call Jesus Christ by such a familial term as "Grandpappy"?

No, and I’ll tell you why. Grandpappy often called God "Father". Did you get that? He called the Ultimate Creator of the Universe "FATHER"! You know, most religions at the time (and a significant number of them today) didn’t even like to speculate regarding the Ultimate Creator in terms of what "it" was like and in many cases they even sidestepped the question of "its" existence entirely. The religions that did believe in an Ultimate Creator usually treated "it" as extremely austere. So, in general, ancient religious practitioners mostly concerned themselves with interacting with lesser gods, spirits, and deceased ancestors. Now the Jews of Grandpappy’s time stood out among other religions in the fact that they’d mostly given up on all of those interceding entities and focused square on the Ultimate Creator, but even they didn’t have the audacity to call "it" FATHER. But that’s what Grandpappy did, and it surely got Him in a heap of trouble. Still, Christians have been calling themselves "Children of God" for centuries, inspired by the example of Grandpappy. So given that PLUS any legitimate claim I may have to the term by blood, I can’t see how my calling Grandpappy "Grandpappy" should be considered blasphemous.

So do you think you’re worthy of worship since you descend by blood from the Savior of the World?

OK, let’s make sure we get this straight. Most theologies posit that for Grandpappy’s mission to have meant anything He had to be some part genuine, bona fide human. Fully God and fully human some even say, and I’m willing to go along with that because there’s something satisfyingly paradoxical about it. But either way, it should be easy for anyone to imagine that certain parts of Grandpappy were 100% human, not a smidgen of the divine in them whatsoever. His toenails for example. Probably just like yours or mine. In fact, all of His waste products, if we want to get right down to it, probably had no sacred value whatsoever. So the question is would Grandpappy’s… contribution, we’ll call it… to the procreation process possess any divine essence or not? To my thinking, any answer other than "not" to that question is perfectly absurd. Meaning, anyone who descends from Grandpappy is just an ordinary human being just like anybody else, deserving of no more and no less regard compared to anyone else. So the pleasure I get from thinking of Grandpappy as "Grandpappy" comes completely from the same place anyone gets pleasure from calling anyone else "Grandpappy". That is, a genuine appreciation for what that familial relationship represents. In particular, unconditional love. So you can save the worship for whomever else you like. No need to waste it on me. I can always use a little more of that unconditional love, though, if you’ve got any. (Hey, even the GC can get lonely sometimes.)

If you really don’t think you are worthy of special regard, then why do you call your blog "Holy Blood, Holy Blog"?

Because I think it’s funny. Freakin’ hilarious, actually, and I don’t use that terminology lightly.

Haven’t the theories in "Holy Blood, Holy Grail", the work upon which Dan Brown based much of his fiction, been discredited?

The theories in Holy Blood, Holy Grail are definitely under contention. However, consider the most compelling bit of evidence in favor of the idea that Jesus had children, namely the anthropological evidence. It is a fairly well established fact that in the time that Grandpappy lived, taking a wife and having children by her was a man's expected course in life. Marriages were "arranged", and, unless a woman was found barren, child bearing was a rather strict duty. Now, there WERE celibate sects and whatnot around, but even so, it would have been unusual for Grandpappy not to be married with children given the culture He grew up in. Such an oddity certainly would have merited mention in scripture, more so than a much more commonplace fact such as Him having a family. If the probability is high that Grandpappy had a family, then there exists some probability that I am descended from Him before I even consider my family connections, and whether or not any other theory put forth in Holy Blood, Holy Grail is true. Either way, I find the idea that Grandpappy had a family to be most theologically satisfying, whether or not He actually is my Grandpappy. Not to say He isn’t. Because He is. My Grandpappy, I mean.

I think your site is the best and I wonder how you got to be so awesome?

I appreciate the sentiment, but let’s consider what’s really being said here. The truth is you don’t really know me outside of what you can put together about me based upon the content of my website. I think we both know that this is not enough information for you to judge whether or not I am, on the whole, awesome. Now, if you like this site, then it appeals to YOUR sense of humor or makes points that YOU essentially agree with or both. So by saying it’s the best and that I’m awesome, aren’t you really saying that you’re the best and that you’re awesome? Of course, given that you find me amusing and essentially agree with everything I say, I’m inclined to agree that you are, in fact, totally awesome.

Another new cuz joins the fold and adds more!

Hello there, Cuz, greetings from the Northeastern United States! My family are connected through Charlemagne as well, and pleased to make your acquaintance!

Might I point the way to another researcher and fellow cousin? Sue Olsson has found people in India who might be related to Grandpappy and the Jewish race in general, and reportedly we've found Grandpappy's remains there as well (trust me, where He is, He doesn't need them anymore!)

Well, just keeping you informed!

Sincerely,

grabaham
Personal Friend to Grandpappy

Re: Another cuz...

Howdy, Cuz!  Thanks so much for stopping by and sharing your insights! Smile

DNA

A DNA was done on Sarah, the daughter of Mary and she did not have one iotta of Hebrew-Jewish DNA what so ever. Sorry you went to all this work on a bogus website...

Jonathan Craig

Re: DNA

Actually, last I knew, all of that was still rather inconclusive... or at least not a "slam-dunk" in terms of objective certainty.  But... either way it doesn't matter because, honestly (and I think I've made this point clear implicitly AND explicitly in my FAQ and comments), I just made this site up for heck of it.

So, um... you know... thanks for your concern for all of my hard work, but... please feel free to lighten up, look around, and have a little fun! Smile

I AM DESCENDED FROM THE

I AM DESCENDED FROM THE LIVING GOD. I JUDGE YOU NOT,

Re: I AM

Um... thanks!Smile

there is no god

and you are not related to an imaginary jesus

get over youself and get a clue

SCREW YOU!

You will burn in hell!

Re: SCREW YOU!

Hm.

Are you speaking... metaphorically?

About the body of your message, I mean.  Not, um... you know... the subject line...

...ahem...

Re: there is no god

Howdy!  Thanks for taking the time to stop by and leave a comment!

I have to confess, though, I'm not sure what you mean by your advice to "get over myself" and "get a clue".  What is it about myself you'd like me to get over and what kind of clue do you mean?

If I had to guess (and please correct me if I'm wrong) I'd probably conclude that you think that I think quite a lot of myself for having Jesus in my family tree.  But... that would mean you didn't read my FAQ very carefully, so I'm hesitant to conclude that.  I mean... you left a comment on my FAQ after all.  And why would you do that if you hadn't actually read it? Heh... yeah... it would be silly of me to think you would do something like that.

And of course this leaves open the question of what the "clue" is you'd like me to get.  Hmm... yeah, I don't even have any kind of guess on that one.

So... if you'd like to give me a clue... about... what I should... have a clue about... that'd be swell!  Thanks!

The Bible

Never says that Jesus got married.

Re: The Bible

That depends on who you ask.  But even if we assume you're correct, it never says He wasn't married either.  And in the time He lived, a man being married by a given age was so commonplace as to not really merit mention, while a man of a given age not being married would have deserved not only mention, but explanation.  And yet, no such mention or explanation is given.  That seems much more suspicious to me.

But hey... thanks for stopping by and leaving a comment!  Please stop back again!Smile

Cousins

If you believe in the Adam and Eve story, we are ALL cousins anyway.

Not a bad way to view the worlsd in my eyes.

Re: Cousins

Well, if you believe the genetic evolution story we're all cousins anyway. Smile But, yes... I agree that it's a very good way to view the world.

click some more...

I'm clicking on all your Adsense ads to test your faith in money!

Re: click

Um... OK... good luck with that! Smile

Hey there I wanted to say

Hey there I wanted to say your site is awesome. I'm not a believer in your Grandpappy but I think you're super!

MrsS

ancestry

I'm not European.  It really distresses me when I read how proud you people are of your "ancestors".  Because my "ancestors" were brought here to this country as slaves and weren't even allowed to keep their own names!  We will never know our origins.  You European derived peoples keep better records of your dogs than you did of my people.  Yes, I can understand that it is a matter of great pride to find out "who you are" and "where" you started.  That such a thing was taken from my ancestors by people who consider it so important to them, really bothers me. It shows an insensitivity that is discouraging to observe.      signed:  anon 

Re: ancestry

Well, friend, first let me say... I have some evidence to suggest that my ancestry isn't entirely European.  Truth told, the records I dug up to get a handle on my ancestry weren't easy to find at all.  It seems nobody on either side of my family thought it was all that important.  Still, I know my challenges in finding my roots are nothing compared to what you'd have to go through to find yours.  And the reasons for that truly are despicable.

Which leads me to my second point... I'm not particularly "proud" of all of my ancestors.  One of my great-grandfathers, for example, was a bigot of the first order and I wouldn't be a bit surprised if he got it from a fairly long line before him.  Nearly all of the royalty far back in my line are a bunch of back-stabbing good-for-nothings who are only ancestors to so many people because they generally lacked the character to exercise fidelity and self-discipline.

As for descending from Grandpappy... well, as I point out in the FAQ, if He really did have kids then nearly all of us would be descended from Him by now, not just people of European descent (in fact, not primarily people of European descent).

So... I guess for me personally there's no need to ascribe too much "pride" to my statements about my ancestors.  For me this site is really just a bit of fun, intended to provoke, but not offend.  I hope you'll take some time to look around and find something here you can enjoy, my friend.

Re: Hey there I wanted to say

Well, thank you kindly, Mrs. S!  I think you're pretty super yourself.  Kinda nifty how that works out, ain't it? Smile

Are we related?

My spouse seems to think we are related, too.  Whenever we're in bed, instead of calling out my name she screams, "Oh God!  Oh God!"  Is this of significance?

Re: Are we related?

I presume by "in bed" you mean "watching TV before turning in at night" and by "calling out my name" you mean "to demand that you get up and get her a chicken leg and a diet Coke".  I'd say the fact that she refers to you as "God" while ordering you to do such menial tasks probably signifies her extreme gratitude for your services.  Count yourself lucky!

Thanks for your question!

Signed,

The PG... er, sorry... the GC. Smile

Yes, I agree...

You should count yourself lucky...well, actually I'd rather say count yourself blessed, because I'm not sure about "luck"...but that's another discussion all together.

Signed,

PG...er, sorry... BG Smile

Cousins?

Hey there cuz.  I also am a descendant, through the Plantagenets.  Yes there are gozillions of us out here, although most don't know who they are (and probably couldn't care less).  It would be nice if we all started to live up to our heritage ( although most of those royals were murderous pricks).  Nice to see that you are out here.  Yes, Jesus was a man, he never said that he was God.  That was decided at the council of Nicea, by guys that never met him, hundreds of years after his lifetime, so that the Emperor wouldn't do something bad to them (as Roman Emperors were often want to do).  Of course, the Jesus thing could all be just a clever ploy to sell books and start trouble.  I think Jesus would approve of cause trouble part and would be happy that so many are "as children".

Pax, YMOHS Maat

Re: Cousins?

Thanks for stopping by, Cousin!  True enough, Grandpappy was known to stir up trouble now and again.  But only when the occasion called for it.  Needless to say, he was a very busy man!

Smile

Enjoy your blog very much

Could not sleep and was look for sites regarding MM.  Much to my delight I found this one.  It is full of fun and light heartedness.  Keep typing so the rest of us can enjoy your words.

Re: Enjoy

You are most kind, friend. Smile

FAQ

YOU ARE ONE HONEST PERSON OUT OF THE MANY PEOPLE THAT I TALK TO ABOUT JESUS CHRIST & MARY MAGDALENE. YOU ROCK THANK YOU FOR THE TRUTH. I'VE BEEN LOOKING AND ASKING QUESTIONS FOR A VERY LONG TIME AND NEVER GOT ANY ANSWERS FOR IT -THEN I WATCH HISTORY INTERNATIONAL CHANNEL ON CABLE -DID MY OWN RESEARCH ON MY LAPTOP AND FOUND WHAT I WAS LOOKING FOR. THANK YOU,MAY GOD BLESS YOU ALWAYS.

History Channel

don't get why History Channel is often viewed as some standard of truth. blech.

Re:FAQ

Thanks for stopping by, friend!  Never stop searching! Smile

Came across this site while

Came across this site while researching the Merovingians. It's fabulous! What Would Jesus Do? Laugh. And pat you on your head for the fun you bring to an otherwise overthought and overwrought subject. Faith is faith and you don't appear to be proseletyzing, just spreading cheeriness and cheekiness.

Please, oh, please keep up the Good Works!

Your cousin,

Melanie MagadaleneInnocent

kudos

Good callΦ

Re: Came across this site...

Thanks for stopping by and offering encouragement, Cousin!  And please stop by again! Smile

family

I completely get the idea of all being descendants of Grandpappy. I mean what are all those church rituals of partaking of the body and blood about if they aren't about sharing in the humanity--the mortal body--of Jesus? And what better way to share in that humanity than to have the same DNA? Pass some of it down here please, ...thanks.

Merovingian kings

You know they did do DNA testing on a Merovingian queen and aloth she could have married into the family as of right now the testing shows no jewish dna in the Merovingian bloodline and as we all know Jesus was infact Jewish....and also about being a decendant of Charlemagne he was in no part in relation to the Merovingian kings. The pope had the Merovingian kings replaced by the  Carolingian dynasty in 751 in which Charlemagne was a member...so by saying you are a decendant of Charlemagne you are saying that you are not related to the Merovingian kings which would mean you have no part in this legend of Jesus and Mary....Congradulations, you have discredited yourself

Whoa! You're missing something here!

How can anyone not take into account that when procreating it takes more than just the male counterpart?  If you think creating life can be done by men only you must not get out much.  It is documented in many historical writings that Charlemagne and possibly Pepin himself took merovingian brides to give them a sense of legitimacy in the eyes of their "subjects".  It was a common tactic when planning to overthrow a king.  Geez...  I am also a direct descendent of Charlemagne.  If you dig further the roots even are traced to King Priam of Troy.  And even farther back has been traced to Enoch and then to Seth, Third son of Adam and Eve.  I too have been referring to Jesus as my "Grandaddy". Wayyyy before I discovered this site.  I am very glad you're here "Cuz"  Now I don't feel so alone.

Re: Whoa!

And thank YOU for stopping by and sharing your thoughtful comment, Cuz!

Smile

Re: Merovingian kings

Hey!  Thanks for visiting!

Well, I'm not keen on disagreeing with you, friend, but given the fact that the Carolingian line was a royal line distinct from the Merovingians, it doesn't follow that the Carolingians and the Merovingians weren't related.  I think there's some other comment I've made in here that addresses that issue… I’m sure you’ll be able to find it!  As for the DNA testing... sounds like you're saying it isn't exactly conclusive, so I guess we're still going to wait and see on that one.

Of course, there's also the point that the Charlemagne route isn't the only one I trace to the legend... it's just one I mention here because Charlemagne is a name that many people recognize.

And... recall in my FAQ I pointed out that much of this hardly matters, since if Jesus had any children nearly all of us are descended from him by now (2000 years is a long time)!

Aaaaaand... there's that other little point... that all of this is really done in fun anyway, so... there's no reason to... you know... take it all that seriously...

I'm sorry friend... you seemed pretty excited there, about the whole me discrediting myself thing.  But don't let that keep you from stopping by again!

Smile

Re: Wondering?

Great blog. I'm wondering if Don Novelo could be your grandpappy on another branch of the family tree? I've been told that some European royalty traced their ancestors back to Odin or other gods, prior to Christianity taking hold in Europe. Just wondering ... were you good at hanging upside down on monkey bars as a kid?? hmmm ... Can you decipher obscure scrips? Curious Minds want to know...

Re: Re: Wondering?

Actually, Odin DID come up in some of our research!  And I WAS good at hanging upside down!  Hey... and get this... I have a "lazy eye"... sometimes the darn thing doesn't work at all!

I think you're onto something here... Laughing

Hm...

Well, I was in the throws of a serious bout of boredom, when I came across this site.  I am quite amused by the contents, although I do not believe an accurate lineage can be traced that far back, what with mass amounts of fires, floods, tornadoes, hurricanes, and all the other natural disasters there are out there just intent on destroying people and documents.  The idea of  decending from Christ is an interesting one though.  I do not believe Jesus having a family is a possibility or even a probability, but a certainty.  It is anthropologically and even theologically correct.  At the age of thirty three it was considered a sin to not have been married, and as Jesus was essentially a Jew (and a devout one at that) He had to live according to the laws of the Old Testiment.  The Isrealites would not have followed a man who was living in sin.  Then that being said, you must also interject two truths.  The first being; twenty six years of Jesus' life are missing from the bible.  What happened during that time?  The only thing said of it was Jesus was building his following by preaching in Nazareth.  Why would people listen to the ramblings of a shunned man?  Do we not, in our own time, ignore the homeless preacher on his box in the city, while we (some of us anyway) empty our pockets to pay the television evangelist, who says much of the same things the homeless man says.  Throughout history, humanity has vested more intrest in the higher classes, and ignored the huddled masses.  The second truth is; the bible did not drop from the sky already arranged in the New King James Version by God.  Men had to write it, men had to read it, and men had to translate it.  More than just those few men who got gospels into the final draft followed Jesus.  You have to think, the printing press was FAR from being invented yet, and people had to get the message around.  There was only so much you could say, and even less you could remember as time wore on, so the logical thing to do was write it down.  Therefore, there must be many, many more manuscripts chronicalling the life and teachings of Jesus of Nazareth.  So who knows, there may show up more manuscrips speaking of married life and how you should go about it to make it work.  Well, now that I have spent an hour rambling, that I should have spent working, I will go home.

Peace to All and Blessed Be!!!

Bari

Re: Hm...

Excellent points!  Thanks so much for the insightful comment!  (Don't worry... I won't tell your boss. Smile)

blood line

  My wife seems to think I from Jesus' blood line. Because lately I have been having visions, and my spiritual attitude has been really strong.  Peolple just stop to stare at me and confess to me for some reason. I dont know maybe im just crazy.  But my family comes from Ireland and France.  What do you think?  because Jesus was in jerluselum far from those places.

Re: blood line

Well, I don't know what to think, Cousin.  One of the things that surprised me most after creating this site was hearing from cousins who claimed to have certain abilities that they believed were derived from their heritage.  I can't say that I've noticed any such abilities in myself, and note again from my FAQ that, statistically speaking, nearly everyone on the planet ought to be related to Grandpappy by now.

However, I'm more than aware that there are more things in heaven and earth than can be dreamt of in my philosophy.  So who knows?

France is where Mary Magdalene is thought to have fled after Grandpappy was crucified and by some accounts Ireland plays a significant role in the "royal blood" lore, so there might be a connection there.  Good luck as you explore the subject further!

Jesus is a mythological

Jesus is a mythological character.  If you are a descendant of Jesus then you are a myth.  Congratulations - you don:t exixt.

That's fun, because I just found out I'm a descendant of Odin!

Yes, god of norse mythology and friend of Richard Wagner.

 Tracing my family line, not to Jesus, but only to his cousins.  Somehow Odin of mythology (supposedly) is a descendant of the tribe of Judah (Jesus is from the tribe of Joseph).     

 Lets all just get along.

Re: Jesus is mythological

I'm not sure it logically follows that, if I'm a myth, I don't exist.  After all, you are communicating with me.  Are you suggesting I'm a figment of your imagination? Perhaps not just me, but the entire World Wide Web? Perhaps your computer? Everything in your room? Your house? Your neighborhood?

Perhaps you're just imagining the entire world?

PERHAPS YOU'RE GOD AND WE'RE ALL JUST PART OF YOUR MAGICAL DREAMS!! Surprised

Hmm...

Nah.

Thanks for stopping by! Smile

Confused on a fact

Hey,

First of all, I want to say, nice blog.  The FaQ's are quite amusing, and your witty, yet intellectual responses to your critis are even more so (or at least the few I have read).  Anyways, my point was: according to various sources, Charlemagne, or Charles the Great, was a descendant of Pepin the SHort.  Pepin the SHort was the first king of the CAROLIGIAN dynasty, after his father Charles Martel took hold of the position (unofficially).  pepin the Short did not start the Merovingian dynasty, but rather, he overthrew it.  Therefore, his son Charlemagne would not be part of the supposedly holy Merovingian dynasty.  Rather, if you trace your ancestry to him, you would be a descendant from the Caroligian dynasty.  Any explanations or resources you could give?

Re: Confused

Thanks for the kind words and thanks especially for posing such an excellent question!  I actually have someone helping me with genealogy, so I'm not the authority, but I'll try to offer the best preliminary answer I can muster.

Well, someone please check me if I'm wrong, but my understanding is that the "Carol" in "Carolingian" is derived from "Charles" in "Charles Martel", and the reason that the term Carolingian is used is because what you're saying is correct, there is no direct line of succession from the Merovingians to the Carolingians.  However, there is a direct blood line outside of the line of succession.  If you permit me some time, I can probably find it for you as, again, I'd need to consult my genealogist.

Re: Re: Confused

My records indicate that Childebert I had a son named Siegbert (not to be confused with the later Sigeberts) from whom Charles the Great descended some nine generations later.  I hope this answered your question!