Some odds and ends from Jughead
I've had a few odd thoughts regarding Lost this past week. I had an old memory of reading about a nuclear test where the names of Archie and his Gang were used as the code for several devices. I looked up "Jughead H-Bomb"and found that it was indeed the name of a nuclear bomb that was intended to be tested in the Marshall Islands. The bomb was never tested. Here's a link to Wikipedia on Jughead.
Why does Sun need to go back to the island? And if she does have to return with the other members of the O6 wouldn't Ji Yeon need to go too? I can't think of any reason why they would need to go with them. Had Sun stayed on the island she'd be dead and Ji Yeon wouldn't have been born. Why force her to return when she has no future there? Is the point to allow the island to "course correct" and kill her and the baby in some way?
I think Prof has stated this before as well but I'm still having a hard time accepting the O6 as public figures. The world was told that the plane had been found and all of the passengers were on board. But the story they told in court stated that 8 people survived. Based on the condition of the bodies that were shown in the news footage it seems very strange that so many bodies would be miscounted. Why is it that no one is questioning this? Where the hell is the '60 Minutes' crew to raise this question?
Something else that's been popping into my head every now and then is regarding Claire and her "appearance" to Kate telling her not to bring Aaron back to the island. I haven't been able to quite put this into a viable theory yet and I'm hoping some of you may be able to put it into a better context where things begin to make sense with what we now know.
Ben is attempting to get everyone back to the island.
Locke is also trying to get the O6 back to the island.
Richard appears to have told Locke that this needs to happen so he appears to be in agreement that they should all return.
The island appears to be stuck in time with the survivors skipping forward and backward into the islands past events.
The time line issues seem to have been caused by Ben turning the Donkey wheel.
Ben turned the Donkey wheel after Locke told him that Jacob said to "move the island".
Locke met with Christian not with Jacob.
Claire appeared to be with Christian when Locke saw him.
Claire doesn't want Aaron to return to the island under any circumstances.
Claire was told that terrible things awaited everyone and there would be no happiness for the child if he was raised by anyone other than her.
Christian abandoned Aaron in the jungle where he was found by Sawyer and eventually given to Kate to raise as her son.
So it seems as if there are two forces at work here, Jacob and Christian. Each on a different side or at least with opposing goals. How was Christian able to use the cabin without Jacob being present? Was that the same cabin and if not why didn't Ben know this? Why wouldn't Locke mention that he didn't see Jacob but rather someone else who gave him directions? How does Claire fit into all of this? And as a minor detail the name of the salvage vessel that located the fake crash site was named the "Christiane I". Anyone think that might be an easter egg by C&L?
I'm heading to Washington tomorrow afternoon to meet with a couple of local Congressmen and I won't get to see the next episode until I get back Saturday night. I'll try to avoid reading any of your posts starting tomorrow but please feel free to add any insights you can into this. It's been bothering me for a while and I can't put it into any sort of context that I like. Hopefully the brains of JIMGP will be able to do it!
No insights at all, old buddy...
A note about Jughead...
Jonesing for the Jones link
Jones, like in Widmore's tag...
I mean, the episode was titled Jughead; Widmore's uniform had a nametag that said Jones --not Widmore, which would have been a big spoiler but quite logical, IMHO. And this guy goes asking why should Widmore wear a nametag like that, and this other guy that mentions "Jughead Jones, Time Cop" Archie's spinof... just that.
Not that I'd know what I'm talking about. I don't even know who's Archie... :)
ETA: Oh, dammit... now I know what you mean. The link itself ommited the "Jones" part... Jughead 's real name seems to be Forsythe Pendleton "Jughead" Jones III. Sorry, my bad.
Observations
Just a quick observation - did anyone notice that the receptionist at Oxford was the same woman who was a stewardess in season 1!! (She was the one who let Hurley through onto the plane, and then she got a great big sweaty hug from Hurley as a way of thanks)
+1 (for old times sake)
Making a fool of himself? Nah...
"Why wouldn't Locke mention that he didn't see Jacob but rather someone else who gave him directions?" --Jukin
There are two possible answer for that question, my friend. First one: maybe Locke did get directions from Jacob himself. We never witness the actual delivering of instructions, right? :-)
Second one, which I honestly think is the correct answer: Locke didn't want Ben to question him; had he said he didn't meet Jacob but someone else, Ben would have stepped ahead as the rightful leader, invested by Jacob himself and not by some self-proclaimed spokesman. Locke had to look like he had everything under control.
Not that it worked at all; after all Ben had the opportunity of making fun of Locke because Jacob didn't tell him how the Island was moved.
Of course, that makes me wonder whether Christian --or whoever is he working for-- does actually know what had to be done in order to move the Island. Maybe "they" only knew the Island could be moved, and "they" wanted it to move. If that was the case, most probably the idea of not telling Ben Jacob was not at home was not Locke's, but Christian's. Using Locke's pride as a lever would be easy.