So, let me see if I understand this...
When John turned the wheel, did that simultaneously transport him off the island AND zap Jack and company back onto it? And, if so, does that suggest that Jack and company (and Jin and Sawyer and Rose and Bernard and Juliet and Dan and Miles) are stuck in the pre-purge Dharma era? Does that mean that when we saw Dan earlier bump into the orientation video guy, he wasn't time traveling, but was stuck there for good? Or searching for a way out of that time period? Did Charlotte actually die because it was becoming apparent to the cosmos that if she survived the next jump she'd be likely to run into her younger self? If Miles' younger self is there also, will Miles also not last much longer?
If they are stuck in that time period, then all the speculations about Adam and Eve and which crash survivor is Jacob are primed to flare up again. But that's very unsatisfying, considering Dan was very clear about how paradoxes aren't allowed. If they're stuck in the past where they don't belong, then they shouldn't be allowed to have any memorable impact on the past. (Skeletons, I'll point out, are a record of the past.) They should also suffer from the "time illness" and their "present-past selves" should die while their consciousnesses pop into times that make more sense for each them. What might work is if they become like whispers to the Dharma folk... or like ghosts... or if they have something to do with the incident and perhaps that brings them back to a less paradox-ridden time. Maybe the smoke monster can come in here somewhere, too. But if they actually change the past, that will not only contradict what has been established in the show, but it will be unimpressive as well.
Eloise said the island's motion prevented it from being discovered. Did the Swan control its movement so that it would be more regular and predictable? Wouldn't the island have to stay in one place for a long time for Widmore to send a BOAT to it? How were the food drops handled if not by actual air transport?
Even though screen caps showed Jack reading a newspaper report about John (as Jeremy) killing himself, in last night's episode we were led to believe he hadn't been aware that John had done that. Why? Now, it isn't that I mind them contradicting a prop that nobody in the viewing audience had any business being able to see. What bothers me is I can't think of any reason he shouldn't have known. Watch the episode again and imagine that he indicated that he already knew John killed himself when he was asked about it. Would anything in the episode have changed? I just don't see the point in them presenting it as being a shock to Jack when it already worked perfectly well as a shock to him before... when it motivated him to nearly kill HIMself.
Did Charlie spring Hurley from jail? And did he ask him to bring that guitar?
Where's Aaron and why won't Kate talk about it? And why did Jack just agree not to ask questions?
Did Ben do something awful to the Humes?
Was Sayid being escorted back to Iraq (with Guam just a stop on the way)?
And what did Sun do to prepare for her journey?
How did a water bottle from the plane get on the island and why was there a camp there if the plane didn't crash there (if they're in the past then the "original" camp wouldn't be there), and who was shooting at Sawyer and company when they were in the outrigger?
And why have this notion that they needed to duplicate the conditions of other crash? That seems perfectly random. Now... notice that it might not be that only something of Christian's has been brought along, but possibly something of Charlie's (the guitar). Will bringing such things along on the trip allow Charlie and Christian to resurrect somehow? And was Jack just given that lame story about duplicating the original crash in order to get him to do what he was told?
But what of other similarities? In the first crash there was a marshal with someone in custody, and now we have that situation again. Did Jack make Kate pregnant the evening before the flight? If so, she sits in for Claire. And the gentleman that expressed sorrow for Jack's loss will surely pop up again. Is he supposed to represent someone? And are we really supposed to think about it all this way? Because, frankly, all of that just seems silly and completely unnecessary to the plot. It seems to me it would suffice that if people the island wants fly over the island, especially while one of these "flashes" occurs, then the island will get them. End of story. That kind of explanation has sufficed before. That kind of explanation will explain how Sayid and Frank even ended up on the flight. Why all this business about replicating the previous event?
And did they really have to all of the sudden introduce Jack's grandfather like that? With no explanation for why Jack would call him "Ray" instead of just granddad? Wouldn't it have been more interesting if Jack had been told he needed to give John something, then we see the shoes in his apartment when Kate makes a comment about them, then we flash back to when Jack tried to talk to Claire's mother about Aaron and it turns out she'd been hoping to run into Jack to give him some of his father's things, which included the shoes? THAT'S very Lost-like. But popping in a character we've never seen before for a purpose that seems to be completely spent already? Maybe Jack will meet him on the island in the past, who knows, but... it didn't work for me.
Overall... I'm very ambivalent about this episode.
"So let me see if I understand this"
Hey, I didn't catch that--lol--that is pretty funny. And who knows what the writers are reading ;-)
What Miles says about time travel--it was more like he says that their (Hugo's, Miles', Kate's, etc.) experiences in the past and future happened before what is happening to them right now. So Miles's experience in the past (relative to 1977)--so for example 1954--and his experience in the future--2008, both happened for Miles before the time that he's talking to Hurley. That is, when he caught a glimpse of the fully formed four-toed statue (waaaaaaaaay past), and when he parachuted onto the island (future), on the historical time line one of those is past and one is future in relation to 1977. But in relation to Miles they are both in the past--they have both already happened before he is having this conversation with Hurley.
In general the conversation between Miles and Hurley I found to actually be contrived--this stuff is better shown through action. If it has to be gone through in dialogue in this way, something's not quite working.
I also don't understand why it is that Ben has to not remember. Why that is even an issue? I think it would have been much cooler actually if Ben had been having that conversation with Sayid in the Swan in 2005 with Ben perfectly aware of who Sayid is and what Sayid had done to him. In fact it makes a lot more sense that Ben continues to use Sayid as a killer, and emphasizes the fact that he is a killer to him in the scene in 2008 in the Dominican Republic based on knowing that Sayid tried to kill him. It would also make sense at the level of character development--certainly having someone try to kill him might have been a large factor in making Ben the man he became. But now--it's because the temple robbed him of innocence?
So everything is becoming a bit Deus ex Machina to me at the moment. That is--they are taking things which are either well explained through character and making them a mechanism of the supernatural (Ben's loss of innocence) or directly in contradiction of character development and character interaction (Ben's memory loss versus acting to corrupt Sayid based on what had been done to him [Ben] in the past).
Given all of the above--this is how the Temple is coming across as a mechanism to me at the moment. Richard entering with Ben's body looked very like the Pieta--but we are getting an exact opposite of forgiveness, redemption or free will. Before entering the Temple, Ben could have gone in either direction--forgiveness of his father or vengeance. Afterwards he is on a determined path. So interesting that Richard (who I've been seeing as the one who keeps offering choice) offers the choice to Sawyer and Kate of what to do. Then presumably Smokie takes choice away. Thinking of my Many Worlds idea (or even the Schrodinger's cat idea)--the Temple is the place where the box is opened and whether the cat is alive or dead, whether the person is on the road of forgiveness or vengeance--is determined, and it doesn't seem (at this point) like there's any going back. (But they have to go back :-)
Yeah...
... I love pointing out moments in the show when a character is speaking for the audience. Most of the time, that character is Hurley.
But, yeah, what Miles was saying did make sense.
What I think Miles was trying to explain to Hurley was that while Hurley was a kid in 1977, his adult (present) self was on the island for some period of time. (Actually, Hurley might not have been born yet, but, stick with me here.) So, on Sept. 22, 2004, when Hurley crashed on the island, he was in a place where his "three-years-into-the-future" self HAD been 27 years before. Meaning that as of Sept. 22, 2004, Hurley was living in a place that was partially determined (in the past) by the actions of his future self. The logical implication here is that there are elements of Hurley's life that are impossible to change. Nothing can happen in his life that will prevent him from getting to the island... or from getting off... or from going back to 1977 and doing certain things in that time... any attempt to change these things will fail because... well, because they DID fail, or Hurley and Miles wouldn't be sitting there talking about it.
My problem with this is that it seemed as though Dan was talking about more than a logical impossibility when he spoke of things being impossible to change. For one thing, all of this logic only applies to trips to a person's past, while I'm fairly certain Dan said (or strongly implied) that the time-travel rules apply to trips to the future as well. So... yes, if we have a time paradox caused by a time-traveler going back into the past, there are certain things that can't happen logically (like the time-traveler killing an infant that would eventually become his grandfather), but Dan's rules seemed not only logical, but cosmic. Like his mother's "course correction" idea. Dan seemed to suggest that paradoxes are smoothed out by the universe rather than allowed to persist. The universe will kill people and erase memories in order to rid itself of "time loops". So if this 1970's time loop is allowed to persist, there must be a reason. It can't just be accepted as part of the plot of the show.
And I think the fact that Hurley "won" that argument with Miles is supposed to lead us to this very conclusion. Miles argument that "the time paradox just is and always has been" is true, but not sufficient.
Now... was Richard's assertion about Ben forgetting what happened supposed to be Hurley's answer? I don't know. We still don't know what Ben will forget or how that forgetting will come about. But I hope it's not as simple as just that, or "deus ex machina" is right.
Making sense...
I must have been writing my reply while you were posting this--meaning that your past did not impact my future post!
I think both explanations of Miles's statement make sense--but yours has more implication to the time travel story and to determinism for the characters than mine, so I'm goin' with yours.
life is a rock...
...and the radio rolled me.
What I hear you (Miles) saying is whether the Losties skip backwards or forwards doesn't really matter because it will always be their present.
Hurley vs Miles
Another random thoughts post :-)
Jin in the Dharma gear--did he drink the Dharma kool-aid and does this mean he won't recognize Jack, Kate & Hurley? Although what might suggest otherwise is that Dan in the Orchid did not seem like he was a regular ol' Dharma member.
Which reminded me of when we first met Dan and the fact that he was crying looking at the footage of the underwater shots of the plane. Was he crying over Charlotte?
What's opera doc?
Yep Prof -
The issue with Jack's surprise to the news of suicide is not very satisfying, nor is the "convenient grandfather" dumbass "shoe synchronicity".
*whatever!*
I've always thought though that the island is full of paradoxes and so the producers have been finding ways to "fudge" Faraday's statement.
If we allow the notion that Ms. Hawking presented about "course correction" then a paradox exists even for that small bit of time between what "should have happened" and "what did happen".
I think that just by leaving the island the O6 created a paradox that needed "correcting".
Jaz - Jin is going to be the one who taught Charlotte Korean.
Brilliant!
Kat - As far as Hurley escaping from Jail - I thought Ben's lawyer told him that he'd have him out the next morning because a case couldn't be made against Hurley considering the first man was killed before he escaped from Santa Rosa?
Ah yes, I'd forgotten about that, good catch!
Oooo and I like your connection to Langoliers - which would explain the crazy B.S. about the props that Prof doesn't like... though I still don't find that as satisfying as the notion that the plane at the bottom of the trench is this flight 316 and the pilot was paradoxically looking at his own dead body when he watched the news that day.
He "should have been" the pilot of Oceanic 815, but what was the chain of events leading up to him not being the pilot that day?
Has destity already determined that he dies?
Ooo - you made some cool points Jukin -
Flight 316 is carrying John Locke’s body - as in John 3:16?
Why would Sun suddenly return to the island? She’s spent the last three years raising a daughter and she doesn’t give her a second thought.
As with Jin, Kate’s commitment to her ‘son’ of 3 years is abruptly tossed aside on a whim with no explanation. It makes no sense and needs to be explained.
“My mother taught me” as the explanation for how Ben could read on the plane was a funny line but yet another lie since his mother died in childbirth.
Ajira is a Hindi word for island i.e. Island Airlines.
Me likey.
Yeah, I've been saying poor old Pen is being set up as likely to die.
I think Kat was right about this "promise to an old friend" being an attempt on Penny's life - whether Ben was successful or not. I do think it's key that Des is not there and they don't show him or Penny after they showed blood on Ben. They're all about drama these days. I feel like I'm watching a night time soap opera!
Yes, Ben did seem to arrange for Hurley's release, but...
... that can't be all there was to it based on the way Hurley was behaving. And, of course, Hurley's release alone wouldn't have caused him to make the flight or even KNOW about the flight.
So, yes, it isn't necessary for Charlie to have busted Hurley out of jail, but Charlie will probably be involved in there somewhere. Actually, I kind of hope he is.
Although... Libby is someone Hurley hasn't seen yet and that might be interesting.
Hurley's release
musical instruments
Plane at the bottom of the trench
That's a great idea about the plane being THIS plane and especially with the irony about Frank Lapidus.
well right...
... but that would be far easier to cover up using something as simple as video alteration... vs. having to come up with a whole new plane and dead bodies to boot.
316 could look like 815 with dirt thrown in the right places I've been thinking. I wonder how similar the outsides of the airplanes look with the logos. I've been trying to find pictures, which is why I visited Lostpedia, but I actually have a long docket of super secret spy work that has to get done first before I pursue my hobby here.
About Aaron
One other thing I meant to put in the first post but forgot related to Aaron. I'm very confused about the intention and motives for Claire and Christian as it relates to the island. Claire was told that she alone must raise Aaron. Yet we saw Christian take him (this was the only time we've seen Christian physically move an object or touch another person) and place him in an area where Sawyer would find him and eventually remove him from the island. We've seen Claire appear to Kate and urge her not to "bring him back to the island" - I'm assuming the him is Aaron although we don't really know that. If it wasn't Aaron who would Claire be referring too and why should Claire be the chosen messenger if it's someone other than Aaron? The only person I can think of would be Widmore. If Kate is working for/with him as many of us think, then her statement begins to make some sense.
What doesn't make sense to me is why Christian wanted Aaron to leave the island in the first place. Is there something about infants that makes the time shifts interfere with their development? Is this why there are pregnancy issues? (Still doesn't explain the death of the Mother but it would explain miscarriages ).
A lot of things are odd about this situation. Was Malkin trying to get CLAIRE to the island and using Aaron as a vehicle to get her on the plane? Is Aaron just a baby and not really a significant player in the future of the island? Why would Malkin try so hard to get Claire to keep the baby before suggesting the adoption route that put her on the plane to LA? Too many contradictions atre going on here to make much sense to me right now. Anyone have any thoughts that might clear this stuff up?
Aaron Christian and Ben -- the missing link!
On another site You Are Everybody posted something about Christians appearance changing and the possibility that it wasn't really him. I love this idea! We saw Ben control smokey when it killed Keamy's team. What if Ben could also control smokey and have it alter states like ti did with Yemi? Locke thinks he's been told what to do by Jacob's proxy, but the truth is Jacob has said two words total to Locke "help me". Everything else Locke has done "for the island" has been by Christian.
What if Ben has been using Smokey to control Locke and have him do what he wants done? What if Kate's vision of Claire was also smokey? Maybe Ben sees Aaron as a threat in the future is is taking action now to separate him from the island to remove the threat? And is the O6 actually going to save anyone if Aaron isn't with them? Is that why the island is still jumping in time?
Kate's "Him" :-)
Yeah, it seems to me...
... the easiest explanation for what's going on with Kate is Aaron's been taken from her and now she must follow certain very specific orders so as to ensure his safety.
Sun did ask her if she was willing to do anything necessary to protect Aaron.
316
Yup, I agree with everyones complaints about this ep.
Dan in the DI days... didn't he look much younger then, though?
I too thought it was strange that Jack didn't know John's death was suicide. However, Jack and Sayid did have a conversation once in which they both agreed that the suicide was a lie and that he was actually murdered. That's the only explanation I can think of anyway.
As far as Hurley escaping from Jail - I thought Ben's lawyer told him that he'd have him out the next morning because a case couldn't be made against Hurley considering the first man was killed before he escaped from Santa Rosa?
Conversely, perhaps Sayid was suspected of doing the killings and is why he was being escorted by the police?
Jack agreed to not ask questions... OH MY GOD... I need a drink.
I think Desmond beat the crap out of Ben for attacking Penny. I hope he didn't kill her.
Recreating events in order to increase the likelihood of crashing - I thought it was dumb, too, but then I learned that the writers could be nodding to Stephen King's novel "The Langoliers" where an airplane travels through a time warp, some passengers disappear, and in order for the remaining passengers to travel back through the time warp they have to recreate the conditions of the original flight.
I don't recall...
... such a conversation between Jack and Sayid. When was that?
In last night's episode Jack certainly behaved as if it was a brand new revelation.
A figment of my imagination?
I tried to find which episode Sayid and Jack spoke about Bentham's death, but was unsuccessful. I can't remember for the life of me when that conversation took place. I remember Sayid sounding skeptical of Locke's suicide when he told Hurley the news, but if that was the only instance for Sayid, that would imply that Jack decides on his own that Locke's apparent suicide was a cover up (according to Agent's link to Lostpedia) and I don't remember any such scenario... but I only vaguely remember a conversation about "Bentham's" death being a lie... and I are confused now.
I don't know which episode specifically...
...but Lostpedia mentions it on the Locke page (which also has some really cool additional stuff noted there).
"Jack and Sayid suggest that the suicide story is a lie."
I don't recall...
...which episode either, actually.
Additional stuff - under Life Experiences: "Locke is unique in that he has had at least one significant life experience in common with virtually every key plane crash survivor or island inhabitant."
I didn't realize this, I thought that was very interesting!
Life Experiences
Yes, that was the part I was looking at too!
I thought that if they're using the Jesus-like redemption angle, perhaps it is his connection to the characters in this way that allows him to save them all with his self sacrifice.
It's a little stretchy, but there you go. In the least, that is indeed an interesting factoid.
Roles
Yeah, that's interesting as far as what Locke's role seems to be. And then could one say the same about Des-who has in common "doing" a bit of what a lot of others have done? surgeon, pilot, monk, soldier, runner, sailor, alcoholic, attempted suicide
You know it strikes me making that list that what is missing is musician.
And then Jack's role sometimes seems to be the "not one of us" guy among all these connections.
316
I really hope you're right about Des/Ben/Penny with Penny still alive. Ben was so shaken up--do you think that was just from the attack? I was so afraid that it meant he killed little Charlie. But then later when he was so callus about the people on the plane--maybe the point was that killing a little boy wouldn't have shaken him up so it must have been something else.
That's an excellent point about Jack and Sayid's earlier conversation.
Hah! Jack agrees not to ask questions, LOL. Are the writers mocking us! Blast their eyes!
That's interesting about the Langoliers--the whole needing to recreate events didn't really bother me that much. I think my overall complaint was more that the episode seemed kind of dull.
Oh, but that reminds me, Prof, the idea that Kate's pregnant--hadn't thought of that--that seems spot on to me.
Kate's pregnant
Ignorant Jane
When she gets to the island she'll hook back up with Sawyer and then not know who the father really is.
That slut!! 
Slutty Kate
...but what a great way to complicate their relationships. That would be interesting, although all viewers would probably roll their eyes.
Me thinks Kate deliberately bedded Jack IN ORDER TO GET PREGNANT.
Or maybe
It was lesbian guilt.
Claire comes back to visit Kate and they get it on. It was a night to remember. When Claire leaves (rightfully with her own child of course) Kate is heartbroken.
Scorned Kate defiantly declares "Well I am STRAIGHT... and I'm going to make my own damn baby - I'll show you!!!"
*curse you for leaving me Claire* *tear*
Don't even ask Jack! (You perve, you'll spoil my beautiful and precious moment.)
Lesbian Guilt pt 2 - the Reconciliation
HA! I'm loving this theory.
Of course we have to amend the first presumption a bit.
Claire didn't take the baby that memorable night (alas she's only a vision still) but tells Kate to take Aaron to grandma and come find her.
Kate is upset because she's not ready to come out yet. She can't part with Aaron because he makes a darn good cover story for her being hetero.
In rebellious defiance Kate proclaims, "Well I am STRAIGHT... and I'm going to make my own damn baby - I'll show you!!!"
*curse you for loving me Claire* *tear*
Kate suddenly realizes her childish behavior and has gone back to the island to seek out her lost love Claire!
Not Jack
Not Sawyer
OMGC The Claters are happy today.
Lesbian Guilt pt 2 - the Reconciliation
Not Jack
Not Sawyer"
I love it!
I think what they did with Kate's character development in that episode was awesome.
Not Jack
Not Sawyer
Not Aaron
Stepping into the hero role for herself and going on a quest. Given what happened to Ben, I'm wondering if Kate's got to take Claire back from the Fate side of things (which I think grabbed Claire, maybe post explosion? curse of da smokie?). And what opposes Fate on the show, but love 
Not Flaire but Clate.
Lesbian guilt
LOL!! Ugh... ouch... mah sides... 
I would watch them...
Claire's "him"
Okay, everybody huddle up!
So you Jack, have got to find some shoes that once belonged to your dad so you can walk in them and quit being such a whiny doubting Thomas.
Sun, ditch the gun, take the cannoli and just get on the plane
Sayid, you go long and find a Marshall and get yourself arrested.
Hurley, you get on the headset and see what the dead scouts are saying about our team
Des, your contract isn't up for another 18months so you can't get out of this freakin' nightmare.... EVER! Anybody comes near the owner of the team rescue boat, you punch them until they're a bloody pulp.
Ben, be a good Other and just bleed, brutha... that's what you get for sticking your face so close to Jesus when he's showing a puncture wound to the ribs
Kate, you need to hump the star quarterback and become impregnated. Gives a whole new meaning to sacking the quarterback...
Oh, and by the way, John, you've got to die. No pressure. Maybe we'll take that incentive clause out of your next contract...
Everybody got the play? Okay on two, er, make that 4,8,15,16,23,42...hike!
In the wise old words of Ricky Ricardo: "Lucy, ju got some 'splainin to do!"
sacking the quarterback...
I just want to thank you for inserting humor into this episode.
I think if we weren't laughing
Tune in for the next episode...
... where we find out that Kate is the mother of Ben's long lost love Annie.
DUH DUH DUUUUUUH
(hijinks ensue)
Ooo wow, wait a minute....
"Annie" was the first shown alias of Kate, who used it to try to fool Ray Mullen in "Tabula Rasa". Kate's middle name was revealed to be Anne in "Eggtown". Kate's full name is Katherine Anne Austen. (Lostpedia)
OK--you got me on that one!
paradoxal no-no
Actually maybe the paradoxal no-no explains why Annie has not been around. She was "picked off" by course correction and all of Ben's manipulation has been centered on trying to change the events that resulted in this consequence.
Hm... is the doll he was given by Annie Ben's constant?
ironical yes-yes
And all of his manipulation results in putting Kate on the island at that particular time which leads to the course correction which kills Annie?
I think we've got to see the other doll show up eventually, and yeah I think so (regarding the constant). Objects on the show--just thinking about the way Locke's note kept showing up for Jack this week--they do have a life/meaning. Hey suddenly remembered--what happened to Charlie's ring that he left with Aaron?
Oh and rings--Jack and objects--avoidance I think--like the wedding ring story.
Re; Episode and Paradox
If Dan was wrong and you can I fact change the past then why doesn’t Mrs. Hawking know this? She’s the source of knowledge - the Oracle if you will - for this show. She was very clear in being the first to establish the idea that events can’t be changed only temporarily delayed. How can they now go back and refute that? It bothers me that they set up these rules and then ignore them. Why set them up in the first place if you’re not going to follow them? It’s a mystery that the viewers are trying to solve so the entire idea of rules is to provide clues to keep us guessing and interested. When a film suddenly throws out a solution that wasn’t present at any point prior to the end of the film it’s a disappointment and a sign of weak storytelling. When the clues are there from the beginning and you can go back and watch it again and think “how did I miss that?” – those are the great movies that stand up to time. I really hope Lost isn’t going to fall flat and disappoint us in the end.
OK enough complaining. I had a couple of thoughts last night. Flight 316 is carrying John Locke’s body - as in John 3:16? Both of you had suggested that a dead body might be required to enter the island so in that regard it fits right in. As for Ben’s promise to an old friend, it was obviously intended to imply that he was going to kill Penny (particularly in light of Desmond being told that the island isn’t finished with him and his refusal to return). But I have a feeling that the blood on Ben was his own. I think Ben tried to get Sayid to return and Sayid attacked him. That’s why he’s being deported and is on the flight. If he wouldn’t come back on his own Ben made sure he had no choice. (Although in truth there’s no way anything Sayid did would result in him being deported in less than 46 hours - but suspended disbelief for the sake of the story.)
Why would Sun suddenly return to the island? She’s spent the last three years raising a daughter and she doesn’t give her a second thought. She knows she’ll never see her again and yet she makes no effort to get her and bring her with her to the island and to Jin? This rush to return to the island seems very weak. They are missing some opportunities here - specifically the chance to bring Walt back to the island and allow the time change to explain his sudden growth. I guess we’ve seen the last of Walt.
I absolutely don’t trust Kate anymore. I think Jaz is right that Widmore is responsible for her change of mind and Aaron’s absence. As with Jin, Kate’s commitment to her ‘son’
of 3 years is abruptly tossed aside on a whim with no explanation. It makes no sense and needs to be explained.
Some random thoughts:
- Ben was reading “Ulyssses” on the flight. Jaz maybe you can shed some light on that but isn’t it about a sailor searching for Penelope? (OK maybe ben DID kill Penny!!)
- Saïd Taghmaoui was in the film “Vantage Point” with Matthew Fox.
- Ajira is a Hindi word for island i.e. Island Airlines.
- The woman escorting Sayid looked a lot like Anna Lucia (who was also a cop).
- “My mother taught me” as the explanation for how Ben could read on the plane was a funny line but yet another lie since his mother died in childbirth.
- I’m beginning to think Dan is Jacob. Between his understanding of the island, his time jumps to the Orchid and Charlotte and who knows where else as well as his connection to Mrs. Hawking, he seems to be the keystone to many of the events. Becoming Jacob just makes a lot of sense.
Don'tcha just love Hurley and Miles?
"So let me see if I understand this" I laughed out loud when Hugo uttered the line as if he had read this post.
So why wouldn't Ben remember Sayid shooting him in 1977. Conveniently, Richard says "he won't remember any of this?"
What? Deus Ex Machina? Does Richard have a flashy thing like Tommy Lee Jones in Men In Black?
But (and I paraphrase) when Miles tried to explain time travel: "This is our present...and that stuff that happened to us in the past and in the future has already happened." My brain realy started to hurt.
Does that make sense to anyone?